Superfecundation, Fallen Angels, Sex, Giants, and a Confession
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Throwing Out The Apple
Genesis 4:1 ‘And Adam knew Chavvah (Eve), his wife; and she conceived and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.’
First off, I hope this hub serves to enlighten more than confuse. With that, it should be understood that while it does contain a certain amount of adult content, the content is actually very public and part of the fabric in many other cultures, especially the Far East. I hope I don’t bruise anyone’s sensitivities. I am going to attempt to support this writing with as much Scripture as I can. Granted, there is a certain element of assumption in it that is open to debate, but I believe when speaking of the beginning, there is much that has long been assumed and taken as fact anyway, so I don’t believe it is a reach to go where this study goes as long as there is Scriptural support. Of course, it does take some uprooting of those antiquated theories that ‘church’ officials have long since deemed to be truth. I begin with the apple.
Genesis 2:17 ‘But the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.’
From all scientific studies I have seen, apples are very healthy and very good for the body. The Church of Rome has done the poor apple a disservice when it created this theory that ‘Eve’ was seduced by the serpent in the Garden of Eden to eat an apple. I believe that to be pure nonsense.
2 Corinthians 11:2-3 ‘. . .for I have espoused you to one husband, that I might present you as a chaste virgin to Christ, but I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity in Christ.’
The serpent, or ‘nachash’ was a whisperer, a diviner, a knowledgeable one in augury and enchantment.
The Buddhist practices their religion under the sacred Bodhi-tree or the tree of wisdom. Buddha was said to have obtained enlightenment under a Bodhi-tree with the protection of a Naga in that tree.
Nagas, a word meaning ‘snake,’ represents serpent-like gods and goddesses associated with water (like Leviathan). Protectors of stones and jewels, Nagas were said to ‘transform’ their shape and their appearance at will.
There are many cultures where ‘penis or lingam worship’ is a major part of the religious veneration. It is said that Gandhi and Nehru tried to remove much of the homoerotic arts and practices active across India without success. Hindu mythology worships an erect and mounted penis. People even carry pocket-sized versions with them to rub and meditate with.
Called Tantrism, the Buddhist training taught men how to prolong sexual intercourse. Oral sex between men and women as well as men and men is displayed in monastery art work and reliefs in the Far East.
It is my theory that the ‘Christian church,’ which has always been sheepish on discussing issues of sexuality, avoided the truth of what really happened in the Garden of Eden and instead used the innocent consumption of an ordinary apple to symbolize the fall of mankind from the grace of the Lord.
I believe Adam was not the first to “know” his wife.
She was not a chaste virgin when he finally ‘knew’ her.
Sleeping With The Enemy
Matthew 13:24-25 ‘Another parable put He forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.’
Sleeping could relate to being unwatchful and the field could easily be related to Eve. Someone came along and planted a seed in her while her husband was being unwatchful.
John 8:44 ‘Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.’
I know some people don’t like to make any connection between the serpent, the dragon, the devil and satan but Revelation 12:9 and Revelation 20:2 bring them all together as one, so I do also. The book of Genesis gives us the first lie and the first murder. Putting the following pieces together, I don’t believe Cain was Adam’s son.
If you read Genesis Chapter 5, you will notice that Cain is not listed in the generations of Adam. Adam never claims Cain, and it is Eve who lies and declares in Genesis 4:1 that she got a man-child from the Lord.
I believe there was a cover-up; a conspiracy that Yahweh would not allow to happen when Yahshua was born.
Matthew 1:18 ‘Now the birth of Yahshua the Messiyah was on this wise: When as His mother Miriam was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.’
I truly believe what Joseph did, is exactly what Adam should have done but did not do.
Matthew 1:24-25 ‘Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: and knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn Son: and he called His name Yahshua (Yah with us).’
Joseph kept his wife but let the child that was not his be born.
Did Adam do this? No. What was the first thing Adam did after getting kicked out of the Garden of Eden?
Two Fathers - One Mother
Scientific Evidence
Genesis 4:1 ‘And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived. . .’
The cover-up begins. It is my belief that Eve was already with child when Adam knew his wife. If he had refused to be with her, like Joseph, then the firstborn son of Eve, Cain, would have clearly been shown to have been fathered by another. Instead Adam knew his wife so she could say it was his.
‘Superfecundation’ is a modern medical term that describes the human female’s ability to release two ovaries in one reproductive cycle and have these eggs fertilized on two separate occasions. In other words, a woman can have twins that were fertilized within hours or even days of each other, and possibly, as has happened in several documented occasions, by two different men. It is said that many married couples who have twins have this occur often and only slight variations in size and weight can clue doctors to the truth.
On other occasions, where the fathers are completely different, the differences are noticeable. This is known as ‘heteropaternal superfecundation.’
In 1978 there was a highly publicized case in Germany where a white mother gave birth to twins, one black and one white, each fathered by two different men during the same menstrual cycle. Further DNA testing proved the veracity of the claim. I ask, ‘Was Cain a seed that should have never been planted?’
Genesis 4:2 ‘And she again bare his brother Abel. . .’
It is not documented such anywhere else in the Bible, but the word ‘again’ used here is ‘yacaph,’ which can mean ‘to continue doing a thing.’ I believe Eve continued in giving birth to Cain, to give birth to Abel. I believe it is very possible that Cain and Abel were twins with the same mother but different fathers.
Again, I know some of this is assumption, but it is no more an assumption than eating an apple is.
Also, scripturally, I find it very difficult to believe that what happened in the Garden of Eden was anything else but a sexual gaffe. All we have to do is look at their guilty response after committing the sin.
Genesis 3:7 ‘And the eyes of them both were opened and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.’
They covered the reproductive parts of their body’s. These were parts which they were not previously ashamed of.
Romans 7:7-8 ‘. . .for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence (lust).’
The flesh has a weakness, a desperate desire to know what is on the other side of obedience. The only rule or law or commandment Adam and Eve knew at this point was to avoid that one particular tree. But taking occasion by the commandment, knowing that one law, wrought in them lust.
Sadly, we see in today’s culture, duel sexuality in people, a desire to go against that which is natural and to be with multiple partners of both sexes. As outrageous and as repulsive as we might picture it, I do not doubt what happened next. I do not doubt what happened when Eve offered what she had to her husband Adam.
I believe Adam also lay with and was ‘known’ by the serpent.
Some Native American tribes claimed that there is third gender and called it ‘berdache’ or ‘Two-spirit people.’ These people are born with male and female apparatus and thus anyone being sexual with them is not considered to be homosexual because these people are duel natured. It seems in almost all documented cases however, the berdache was more male in face and bodily appearance, more female in behavior and dress, and always serviced men. Because of this belief in their duel nature, many considered the berdache more spiritual than ordinary males or females.
Cherub and Angels
Revelation 12:9 ‘And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.’
I believe this prophetic time is coming. The worldly are being “spiritually conditioned” to accept their appearance on earth. Remember in Revelation Chapter 13 the dragon is given great power and authority to speak blasphemy. He will do great wonders, miracles, and people will worship him for the spectacular deeds he does.
Is he a man? Is he a beast? Is he a serpent? Is he a dragon?
I believe he is all of these and none of these. He is the doppelganger of all-time, a transformer. People can say he is not the one described in Ezekiel Chapter 8 as the king of Tyrus, but I disagree.
Ezekiel 28:12-13 ‘Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus and say unto him, This saith Yahweh thy Creator; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden, the garden of the Creator, every precious stone was thy covering. . .the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in the day that thou wast created.’
The king of Tyrus is not a man. The king of Tyrus was in the Garden of Eden and was full of wisdom and perfect in beauty in the day he was created – not born. Look what he is called next.
Ezekiel 28:14 ‘Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth. . .’
Ephesians 6:10-11 ‘Finally my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armour of the Creator, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.’
We need to understand how truly ‘bad’ this guy is. He has the full sum of worldly wisdom at his disposal and is perfect in beauty. As it states in Ezekiel 28:15, iniquity was found in him. That means; despite all of his worldly wisdom and seductive beauty, he is rebellious against the Creator; and Yahweh will not stand for that.
A cherub is also not an angel, and despite all the artwork and films that speak otherwise, angels do not fly.
Biblically, cherubs have wings and many faces and they fly. This particular cherub is the leader, and he has angels, messengers who follow him and do his bidding.
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 ‘And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.’
Perhaps this all sounds rather far-fetched to some. When I went into full time study, I was a sponge. I absorbed all I could find but then I learned that everything cannot be right because there is far too much contradiction, and itching ears will only hear what they want to hear. How many people do you know can make contradictions sound feasible despite all logic?
I decided that the sponge had to be squeezed, but by what?
John 17:16-17 ‘They are not of the world even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy word is truth.’
For better or for worse, in sickness and in health, the Scriptures are my truth, and it is this almighty hand that squeezes my thoughts and imaginations and wrings out all the unnecessary things that have collected. I do my best to rid myself of traditions and assumptions that Scripture cannot support. I am not perfect in this, but I am trying.
Why did Yahweh send the great flood from which only Noah was saved?
That Which Is Needful
Genesis 6:1-2 ‘And it came to pass, when the man Adam began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them (Adam & Eve), that the sons of the Creator saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.’
Because Christian religion has discounted many other religions as ‘pagan,’ I believe they have missed some truths scattered in those weeds. Biblically, angels are male. Biblically, angels don’t procreate. Biblically, there are a set number of angels and there will never be more. Legends of many ancient cultures everywhere in the world speak of ‘gods’ coming down and mating with women. The Bible does too. These ‘sons of the Creator’ are fallen angels. I believe these are the angels of Jude 1:6 who left their first habitation.
What happened when these fallen angels mated with women?
Genesis 6:4 ‘There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that when the sons of the Creator came in unto the daughters of Adam, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.’
These are the legendary heroes of ancient Greece and other civilizations. We can’t dismiss the fact that these myths might have some truth to them. The word ‘giants’ is the Hebrew word ‘nephilim.’ The offspring of the fallen angels and the women on earth created giants, mighty men of renown. The next several verses finish the thought.
Genesis 6:5-8 ‘And the Creator saw the wickedness of man. . .that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented Yahweh that He had made man on the earth. . .And Yahweh said, I will destroy man. . .But Noah found grace in the eyes of Yahweh.’
The idea of supernatural beings coming down to earth and impregnating women with ‘giant’ children is not outlandish, it is Scriptural.
I believe that sometimes our own religious bias towards things we have long assumed and want to protect, prevent us from seeing things as clearly as the Lord would like to make them too us.
This is a failing in all of us, myself included.
And this is where faith must take over. The world is full of hidden mysteries and unexplainable knowledge. There is far too much in this world for our brains to learn and comprehend. Everyone, even the mightiest atheist takes some things on faith.
The real truth is, we don’t have to know anything whatsoever about what happened in the Garden of Eden, but it doesn’t hurt to learn it and apply it so as to strengthening our faith a little more by seeing a bit clearer.
There is only one momentous event in history that needs be acknowledged and believed, and that event happened about two thousand years ago. The Son of the Creator Yahweh came down to live amongst us as a man. He suffered unjustly, He bore our sins, He died, and He rose again. Now that is a faithful testimony and that is what is needful.
Luke 12:8-9 ‘Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess Me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of the Creator: But he that denieth Me before men shall be denied before the angels of the Creator.’
I do so confess.
Amen
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Hey there AM Werner;
Very nice hub. I also have to confess that I believe that the serpent 'knew' Eve before her husband, Adam did. There's simply too much evidence pointing to that. Including this particular verse:
1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
The term 'of' here means 'origin' in the whole 'fathered by' concept.
Thank you for this hub.
AM, This power statement sums it up for me:
"There is only one momentous event in history that needs be acknowledged and believed, and that event happened about two thousand years ago. The Son of the Creator Yahweh came down to live amongst us as a man. He suffered unjustly, He bore our sins, He died, and He rose again. Now that is a faithful testimony and that is what is needful."
Thank you for the interesting thoughts!
Forever His,
AM,
There are things that I don't know.
But I do know, that as God spoke of the generations of Adam, he began with Seth. And it wasn't until Seth, that men began to call on the name of the Lord.
Powerful hub.
God Bless
It is not the first time that I've heard these ideas expressed. Well done.
I liked what you said about adam and eve, consider this: the serpent was another member of the garden who committed adultery with eve (hence she bore cain) and god put enmity between the serpents seed (abel, who typifies christ nicely) because you are right eve did have 2 sons, one after the other. Why is a serpent mentioned.... god doesn't name people he doesn't care about.
I am not a nephilim supporter as per angels mated with humans.
And as far as ezekiel 28... ezekiel chapter 31, pharoah was in the garden of god, twice mentioned, so safe to assume that "garden of god" refers to the earthly location and not the actual garden where adam and eve stood.
Good hub. I appreciate the rendition.
First of all I love your hub! Kudos to you!!
Secondly, apple trees didn't grow in the Middle East back then. That is proven, biological fact. According to researchers, scholars and scientists who investigated the region- the fruit of ancient Mesopotamia was the Fig. For more on the Food of Mesopotamia, I found a great website called the Orcale Thinkquest, which is a website/organization for students projects and research, conducted by students. It is a very interesting site. I think you'd enjoy it.
http://library.thinkquest.org/C005446/text_version
Another thing- ancient Jewish peoples were very sexually active. Look at Solomon and his 1,000 wives! The bible even tells us how he lusted to bed them. Abraham was the same. So this up tightness about sex, for one is an American thing, which I think stems for the 1960's. It's like we Americans can never find a middle ground in ANYTHING we get involved with. We are always way to far left, or in this instance way to far right.
Again, great hub!














msorensson Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago
"The world is full of hidden mysteries and unexplainable knowledge. There is far too much in this world for our brains to learn and comprehend. Everyone, even the mightiest atheist takes some things on faith."
So true. Thank you.